University of Phoenix


Thank you my brother for making it easier for me.

Thank you my brother for making it easier for me.
Duncan

My pleasure. You're very lucky to have one of the country's top 30 business schools right there in Tempe!

My pleasure. You're very lucky to have one of the country's top 30 business schools right there in Tempe!
ACE123123

Hey Duncan,

I just checked the AACSB accreditation list for U of P and the school is on there. In an earlier post, you mentioned U of P is not accreditation list in the link you provided.
See the link below.
http://www.find-mba.com/accreditations/AACSB/12
University of Phoenix - US AACSB

Im curious to hear why you are saying U of P is not an accredited school. Am I reading the list wrong?

Hey Duncan,

I just checked the AACSB accreditation list for U of P and the school is on there. In an earlier post, you mentioned U of P is not accreditation list in the link you provided.
See the link below.
http://www.find-mba.com/accreditations/AACSB/12
University of Phoenix - US AACSB

Im curious to hear why you are saying U of P is not an accredited school. Am I reading the list wrong?
Duncan

You are clearly able to read correctly, but this website is mistaken about UoP. Also go direct to the AACSB listing at https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPage.aspx?Site=AACSB&WebCode=AccredSch

You are clearly able to read correctly, but this website is mistaken about UoP. Also go direct to the AACSB listing at https://www.aacsb.net/eweb/DynamicPage.aspx?Site=AACSB&WebCode=AccredSch
ArunS

It's not on that list of accredited schools (anymore). Also, the recent news were a bit worrying:

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/morning_call/2013/05/university-of-phoenix-may-lose.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2013/07/11/university-of-phoenix-keeps.html

It's not on that list of accredited schools (anymore). Also, the recent news were a bit worrying:

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/morning_call/2013/05/university-of-phoenix-may-lose.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2013/07/11/university-of-phoenix-keeps.html

Thanks gentlemen. This is great news. I also found UoP to be a joke in terms of employment opportunities for graduates.

Thanks gentlemen. This is great news. I also found UoP to be a joke in terms of employment opportunities for graduates.

Niels,

I highly disagree with your statement. I graduated with my bachelors in Healthcare Administration with an emphasis in Health Management. I currently work for the largest corporation in America, HCA! The accredit University of Phoenix and come highly recommended in their eyes for higher education. They even help with a discount on tuition for UoP. I will be starting my MBA really soon.

My father in-law had also graduated with an MBA from UoP and is now the top director of an amazing corporation in Dallas.

My brother also graduated with an MBA form UoP and is now the regional Vice President in Texas for Wells Fargo.

University of Phoenix is highly accredited!

Niels,

I highly disagree with your statement. I graduated with my bachelors in Healthcare Administration with an emphasis in Health Management. I currently work for the largest corporation in America, HCA! The accredit University of Phoenix and come highly recommended in their eyes for higher education. They even help with a discount on tuition for UoP. I will be starting my MBA really soon.

My father in-law had also graduated with an MBA from UoP and is now the top director of an amazing corporation in Dallas.

My brother also graduated with an MBA form UoP and is now the regional Vice President in Texas for Wells Fargo.

University of Phoenix is highly accredited!
Duncan

I am happy that and your uncle had postive experiences but, seems to be nor Niels' experience. Generally, I'd expect even graduates of below average universities to make career progress because students are people who wan to move forward and are doing other things to make progress. Either way, UoP does not have any of the most respected international accreditations. If better than average outcomes were common for UoP MBAs then we would see UoP in respected, independent rankings of MBA programs: we don't.

I am happy that and your uncle had postive experiences but, seems to be nor Niels' experience. Generally, I'd expect even graduates of below average universities to make career progress because students are people who wan to move forward and are doing other things to make progress. Either way, UoP does not have any of the most respected international accreditations. If better than average outcomes were common for UoP MBAs then we would see UoP in respected, independent rankings of MBA programs: we don't.

I've been reading this and wanted to put in my 2 cents worth.
UoP is accredited - as a trade school, not a University. There's a huge difference IMHO.
University programs are more rigorous and focus on a more rounded education, where trade schools focus on educating strictly to the skill.
My recommendation is always choose a state or private university first. If for whatever reason they are not flexible enough for your schedule / time / etc, then go to a trade school, keeping in mind that a state or private university is still seen as much more desirable of an education by hiring managers than a trade school.

I have been a hiring manager in the Computer Science arena for 30 years now and have hired both UOP, state and private university graduates. I can say that the UoP graduates, for the most part are not as engaged on the job as university graduates. Most of my UoP candidates wanted to make a change in their career later in life and chose the UoP option because of their flexible classroom options, so they are coming into their "new" career with an empty slate.

I think State and Private universities update their curriculum regularly to meet the demands of the work force. In addition they welcome adjunct professors from the industry, while UoP has a "patented" teaching method which they simply repeat, and don't change much over time. UoP does welcome in people from industry to teach - some of their criticizm is that the "System" creates the lesson plans and then the teacher (whom may not have any degrees of their own) teaches the class.

Summary - if you are fresh out of High school, UoP is not a good option, your best bet is always to continue on to higher education in a university or community college.

If you are already successful, on the job, and need to add some additional skills, or you want to change careers, UoP is a better fit.

[Edited by joeblevins on May 25, 2016]

I've been reading this and wanted to put in my 2 cents worth.
UoP is accredited - as a trade school, not a University. There's a huge difference IMHO.
University programs are more rigorous and focus on a more rounded education, where trade schools focus on educating strictly to the skill.
My recommendation is always choose a state or private university first. If for whatever reason they are not flexible enough for your schedule / time / etc, then go to a trade school, keeping in mind that a state or private university is still seen as much more desirable of an education by hiring managers than a trade school.

I have been a hiring manager in the Computer Science arena for 30 years now and have hired both UOP, state and private university graduates. I can say that the UoP graduates, for the most part are not as engaged on the job as university graduates. Most of my UoP candidates wanted to make a change in their career later in life and chose the UoP option because of their flexible classroom options, so they are coming into their "new" career with an empty slate.

I think State and Private universities update their curriculum regularly to meet the demands of the work force. In addition they welcome adjunct professors from the industry, while UoP has a "patented" teaching method which they simply repeat, and don't change much over time. UoP does welcome in people from industry to teach - some of their criticizm is that the "System" creates the lesson plans and then the teacher (whom may not have any degrees of their own) teaches the class.

Summary - if you are fresh out of High school, UoP is not a good option, your best bet is always to continue on to higher education in a university or community college.

If you are already successful, on the job, and need to add some additional skills, or you want to change careers, UoP is a better fit.
Duncan

You are mistaken. The University of Phoenix has been regionally accredited since 1978 by The Higher Learning Commission (HLC) as a member of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA). That's a respected accreditation for a university (although not the best for available for a business school). I can't think of anyone who should go there, but that's because there are better options rather than because it is not a university.

You are mistaken. The University of Phoenix has been regionally accredited since 1978 by The Higher Learning Commission (HLC) as a member of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA). That's a respected accreditation for a university (although not the best for available for a business school). I can't think of anyone who should go there, but that's because there are better options rather than because it is not a university.

You are mistaken. The University of Phoenix has been regionally accredited since 1978 by The Higher Learning Commission (HLC) as a member of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA). That's a respected accreditation for a university (although not the best for available for a business school). I can't think of anyone who should go there, but that's because there are better options rather than because it is not a university.


What items are I mistaken about?

My personal recommendation is to avoid trade or business schools, however understand that they do add some value.

Also in California, we have a separate association: "Western Association of Schools and Colleges" who manages all the accreditations.

UoP is NOT on that list.

Joe

[quote]You are mistaken. The University of Phoenix has been regionally accredited since 1978 by The Higher Learning Commission (HLC) as a member of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA). That's a respected accreditation for a university (although not the best for available for a business school). I can't think of anyone who should go there, but that's because there are better options rather than because it is not a university. [/quote]

What items are I mistaken about?

My personal recommendation is to avoid trade or business schools, however understand that they do add some value.

Also in California, we have a separate association: "Western Association of Schools and Colleges" who manages all the accreditations.

UoP is NOT on that list.

Joe
Duncan

You wrote that "UoP is accredited - as a trade school, not a University." That opinion is mistaken. Wikipedia explains that "The Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC) is one of six official academic bodies responsible for the accreditation of public and private universities, colleges, secondary and elementary schools in the United States and foreign institutions of American origin." Phoenix is not in WASC's area. The North Central Association of Colleges and Schools is headquartered in Arizona: it is the regional accreditor for that area and it accredits UoP.

So, even though it is not in California it is possible for the a university to be accredited. UoP is accredited as a university, despite not being headquartered in California.

You wrote that "UoP is accredited - as a trade school, not a University." That opinion is mistaken. Wikipedia explains that "The Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC) is one of six official academic bodies responsible for the accreditation of public and private universities, colleges, secondary and elementary schools in the United States and foreign institutions of American origin." Phoenix is not in WASC's area. The North Central Association of Colleges and Schools is headquartered in Arizona: it is the regional accreditor for that area and it accredits UoP.

So, even though it is not in California it is possible for the a university to be accredited. UoP is accredited as a university, despite not being headquartered in California.

Graduate college enrollment advisor here. I can confirm with complete confidence that UoP is completely regionally accredited, which is considered the gold standard in accreditation.

Say what you will about the quality of UoP, but they hold the same TYPE of accreditation that schools like Harvard (NEASC) and Stanford (WASC) hold. I work at the University of New England (NEASC) and we accept transfer credits from UoP frequently.

Hope this helps.

[Edited by Lucas Good on Jan 18, 2018]

Graduate college enrollment advisor here. I can confirm with complete confidence that UoP is completely regionally accredited, which is considered the gold standard in accreditation.

Say what you will about the quality of UoP, but they hold the same TYPE of accreditation that schools like Harvard (NEASC) and Stanford (WASC) hold. I work at the University of New England (NEASC) and we accept transfer credits from UoP frequently.

Hope this helps.

I went to AACSB and UoF is not listed. When you spend more on advertising that professors what would you expect. Also banned by GI Bill.
http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/accredited-members/global-listing

I went to AACSB and UoF is not listed. When you spend more on advertising that professors what would you expect. Also banned by GI Bill.
http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/accredited-members/global-listing
Duncan

Yes, we established that in November if you scroll up.

Yes, we established that in November if you scroll up.

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